1 00:00:11,580 --> 00:00:07,829 the oldest and strongest human emotion 2 00:00:16,109 --> 00:00:11,590 is fear the oldest and strongest type of 3 00:00:18,749 --> 00:00:16,119 fear is trepidation of young when we 4 00:00:22,679 --> 00:00:18,759 were children our parents told us that 5 00:00:25,319 --> 00:00:22,689 monsters didn't exist but we were sure 6 00:00:26,689 --> 00:00:25,329 that something is lurking under the bed 7 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:26,699 or in the closet 8 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:31,470 beer seats even if our eyes are closed 9 00:00:38,189 --> 00:00:35,170 welcome to the realm of your king my 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:38,199 name is lon stripper join me as I 11 00:00:45,349 --> 00:00:41,050 examine unexplained creatures strange 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:45,359 manifestations and remarkable realities 13 00:00:51,959 --> 00:00:48,730 imagine this next hour as a voyage of 14 00:00:55,079 --> 00:00:51,969 discovered to strange lands seeking not 15 00:00:58,139 --> 00:00:55,089 for new territory but for new knowledge 16 00:01:01,060 --> 00:00:58,149 of the supernatural come on board as we 17 00:01:07,330 --> 00:01:01,070 begin this adventure together 18 00:01:12,109 --> 00:01:09,680 hey folks good evening and welcome to 19 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:12,119 another episode of arcane radio where we 20 00:01:15,710 --> 00:01:14,130 explore the unexplained here on the 21 00:01:18,260 --> 00:01:15,720 paranormal king radio network 22 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:18,270 I'm your host LAN Stricker coming to you 23 00:01:22,190 --> 00:01:20,310 with an a cannon shot of historic 24 00:01:24,590 --> 00:01:22,200 Gettysburg Pennsylvania thank you for 25 00:01:25,219 --> 00:01:24,600 joining me now before I introduce my 26 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:25,229 guest 27 00:01:31,609 --> 00:01:27,780 I did mention last week that we were 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:31,619 working on a second pilot report coming 29 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:33,810 out of a Haier international in Chicago 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:37,380 and we were able to get an interview 31 00:01:44,690 --> 00:01:40,890 with this pilot and I'm gonna read to 32 00:01:46,999 --> 00:01:44,700 you what we got from it so this pilot 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:47,009 had he has been working as a pilot since 34 00:01:54,999 --> 00:01:50,850 2008 previously flew in the Air Force 35 00:01:59,930 --> 00:01:55,009 for six years 9,000 hours of flight time 36 00:02:03,340 --> 00:01:59,940 variety of aircraft so he said that the 37 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:03,350 incident happened on Thursday August 8th 38 00:02:10,910 --> 00:02:09,149 2019 at O'Hara around 1800 hours now he 39 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:10,920 said he had flown into an Hera the 40 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:13,440 previous day and stayed at a hotel for 41 00:02:22,009 --> 00:02:16,230 the night he was due to fly out of 20 42 00:02:24,199 --> 00:02:22,019 hundred hours to go to the UK see there 43 00:02:26,569 --> 00:02:24,209 was taking the airport shuttle towards 44 00:02:29,539 --> 00:02:26,579 the terminal and as he looked out the 45 00:02:32,420 --> 00:02:29,549 window he saw a large human with 46 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:32,430 enormous wings and glowing red eyes 47 00:02:39,050 --> 00:02:36,000 perched upon a rail and looking right at 48 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,060 him now there was nobody else in the 49 00:02:45,170 --> 00:02:41,760 transport he said the being appeared to 50 00:02:47,630 --> 00:02:45,180 be squatting down on the rail but had 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:47,640 its wings completely open and moved them 52 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:50,090 slowly as he stared at the shuttle bus 53 00:02:55,940 --> 00:02:53,310 and he said I knew that he was watching 54 00:02:59,060 --> 00:02:55,950 me as its head swivels and followed the 55 00:03:01,789 --> 00:02:59,070 shuttle as we passed its eyes locked on 56 00:03:04,340 --> 00:03:01,799 me the entire time said I was startled 57 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:04,350 and I'll admit it very frightened now 58 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:06,900 lonely by this encounter by the absolute 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:08,700 boldness of this thing as it didn't move 60 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:11,370 and attempt to hide itself as we 61 00:03:18,379 --> 00:03:15,540 approached he said we passed it on the 62 00:03:20,010 --> 00:03:18,389 outside lane where we were to close us 63 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:20,020 approximately 15 foot 64 00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:23,530 from it when I was pursed I never once 65 00:03:29,730 --> 00:03:25,780 flinched or ket to hide itself just stay 66 00:03:31,830 --> 00:03:29,740 put he said he had heard the stories of 67 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:31,840 the O'Hara Mothman is which what he 68 00:03:36,690 --> 00:03:34,000 called it he said other pilots are 69 00:03:39,390 --> 00:03:36,700 calling it the same thing or as some 70 00:03:41,370 --> 00:03:39,400 have also called it Batman but I simply 71 00:03:43,830 --> 00:03:41,380 dismissed them as being nothing more 72 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:43,840 than fantasy maybe an urban legend that 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:46,510 was associated with an already spooky 74 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:49,210 Airport I mean who hasn't heard of the 75 00:03:53,790 --> 00:03:51,490 weird UFO sightings around O'Hare and 76 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:53,800 stories of ghosts and whatnot 77 00:03:58,410 --> 00:03:56,380 what happened me that evening changed my 78 00:04:02,190 --> 00:03:58,420 entire view of those stories so when I 79 00:04:05,340 --> 00:04:02,200 saw the post asking for pilots to step 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:05,350 up and step up and to share their 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:06,610 stories that took advantage the 82 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:09,010 opportunity that tell my encounter with 83 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:13,990 you a hair Mothman now with after the 84 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:15,700 interview with the team investigator our 85 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:19,600 team investigator Manuel now read the 86 00:04:23,310 --> 00:04:21,940 pilot did state to him that he saw this 87 00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:23,320 thing it was squatted down the arms 88 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:24,880 appeared to be gripping the guardrail 89 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:28,570 and we're long and very skinny almost 90 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:31,510 bony and with jet black he didn't get a 91 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:33,490 good look at the fingers of the entity 92 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:35,890 but he described the length of the arms 93 00:04:41,610 --> 00:04:39,010 to be about 3 foot long but couldn't 94 00:04:44,130 --> 00:04:41,620 give an act of measurement the witness 95 00:04:45,980 --> 00:04:44,140 said even squatting down yet any entity 96 00:04:48,450 --> 00:04:45,990 it was still about four foot tall and 97 00:04:51,540 --> 00:04:48,460 out of it would stand out would be well 98 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:51,550 over six and a half foot the head was 99 00:04:57,870 --> 00:04:54,400 rounded and featured list other than to 100 00:05:01,380 --> 00:04:57,880 to eliminating eyes that he described as 101 00:05:03,690 --> 00:05:01,390 ruby red in color he did note that the 102 00:05:05,940 --> 00:05:03,700 head was not overly large and appeared 103 00:05:08,190 --> 00:05:05,950 to around it at the top now the wings 104 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:08,200 are black and very large important at 105 00:05:13,380 --> 00:05:10,270 the end appeared to be segmented like 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:13,390 that of the wings of a large bat now the 107 00:05:18,840 --> 00:05:15,370 pilot estimated the wings to be at least 108 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:18,850 10 foot wide from tip to tip and about 5 109 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:21,250 foot and height the wings appeared to be 110 00:05:27,570 --> 00:05:23,770 taller than the being by at least 2 foot 111 00:05:29,550 --> 00:05:27,580 and were black in color when asked about 112 00:05:31,650 --> 00:05:29,560 the encounter you stated the entity did 113 00:05:33,450 --> 00:05:31,660 not move at all and stayed perched on 114 00:05:36,659 --> 00:05:33,460 the guardrail 115 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:36,669 held his ground and didn't move did make 116 00:05:42,779 --> 00:05:40,690 eye contact and you know it was just 117 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:42,789 support the witness was just surprised 118 00:05:48,089 --> 00:05:45,310 how I just stood there and looked at him 119 00:05:50,420 --> 00:05:48,099 and he said the the actual incident 120 00:05:53,550 --> 00:05:50,430 lasted between ten and fifteen seconds 121 00:05:55,439 --> 00:05:53,560 so the witness did present his airline 122 00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:55,449 company credentials and federal 123 00:06:00,570 --> 00:05:57,900 identification to prove his employment 124 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:00,580 showed photos of his time with his 125 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:03,370 previous employer and military service 126 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:05,500 the answer all the questions didn't 127 00:06:11,249 --> 00:06:07,870 deviate away from his initial sighting 128 00:06:16,499 --> 00:06:11,259 report so that's our second pilot 129 00:06:19,790 --> 00:06:16,509 sighting now I had heard from other 130 00:06:22,439 --> 00:06:19,800 sources that many of these pilots are 131 00:06:24,570 --> 00:06:22,449 aware of this being and they have been 132 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:24,580 talking and discussing it on social 133 00:06:29,730 --> 00:06:28,240 media and among themselves so hopefully 134 00:06:33,029 --> 00:06:29,740 we're going to get some more sighting 135 00:06:34,860 --> 00:06:33,039 reports from the pilots other people 136 00:06:37,499 --> 00:06:34,870 working at the airport we've already had 137 00:06:41,939 --> 00:06:37,509 two other security people send reports 138 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:41,949 so hopefully it continues so tonight I 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:45,070 welcome author investigator explored 140 00:06:49,529 --> 00:06:47,289 David whether lead to arcane radio now 141 00:06:51,089 --> 00:06:49,539 David is a Renaissance man of the 142 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:51,099 strange is supernatural 143 00:06:56,310 --> 00:06:53,050 he has travelled the world in pursuit of 144 00:06:58,770 --> 00:06:56,320 ghost cryptids UFOs magic and more from 145 00:07:01,200 --> 00:06:58,780 the specters of dusty castles to remote 146 00:07:03,629 --> 00:07:01,210 haunted Islands from ancient sites to 147 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:03,639 modern mysteries just journeyed to most 148 00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:05,860 unusual places on the globe seeking in 149 00:07:11,010 --> 00:07:08,680 the unknown David has investigated and 150 00:07:12,450 --> 00:07:11,020 written about a divine diverse range of 151 00:07:15,719 --> 00:07:12,460 topics including hauntings of 152 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:15,729 cryptozoology you'll follow gee ancient 153 00:07:20,490 --> 00:07:18,070 mysteries shamanism magic and psychic 154 00:07:22,860 --> 00:07:20,500 phenomena he has been a featured speaker 155 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:22,870 at conferences around the world and has 156 00:07:27,659 --> 00:07:25,360 lectured on countless paranormal UFO and 157 00:07:29,689 --> 00:07:27,669 spiritual groups he's a frequent guest 158 00:07:32,810 --> 00:07:29,699 on coast-to-coast am with George Noory 159 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:32,820 darkness radio and other radio programs 160 00:07:37,140 --> 00:07:35,020 david has also appeared on numerous 161 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:37,150 television shows including ancient 162 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:39,490 aliens mysteries of the national parks 163 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:41,919 and beyond belief his latest book as 164 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:45,010 monsters of the last frontier cryptids 165 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:47,090 and legends of alas 166 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:49,690 his website can be found at Erie Lights 167 00:07:56,020 --> 00:07:52,250 dot-com so David thanks for joining with 168 00:08:00,700 --> 00:07:56,030 it's evening sir long good evening man 169 00:08:02,710 --> 00:08:00,710 you've been busy this week I know your I 170 00:08:06,610 --> 00:08:02,720 heard John Dave Scott last night 171 00:08:09,250 --> 00:08:06,620 over a spaced out radio and yeah you 172 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:09,260 have been busy I didn't know the show as 173 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:11,900 well this week I think I'm pretty sure 174 00:08:17,260 --> 00:08:14,090 you did so but I know you can hardly 175 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:17,270 keep up John how you feel man I know 176 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:20,300 exactly how I feel so this book is about 177 00:08:28,810 --> 00:08:24,230 cryptids in what you call the last 178 00:08:31,450 --> 00:08:28,820 frontier of Alaska what made you decide 179 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:31,460 to write this book though we do know 180 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:34,370 there's a lot going on up there oh yeah 181 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:38,270 well you know this is actually the third 182 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:39,980 book I mean it's a standalone but it's a 183 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:41,570 third book in a series in a sense 184 00:08:49,060 --> 00:08:45,050 because what happened was I started 185 00:08:51,370 --> 00:08:49,070 digging through my files and a uterus so 186 00:08:54,670 --> 00:08:51,380 ago decided to write a book on the 187 00:08:57,190 --> 00:08:54,680 cryptids of Nevada right just because I 188 00:08:59,380 --> 00:08:57,200 had so many unusual pages from there and 189 00:09:01,990 --> 00:08:59,390 and partially because you know people 190 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:02,000 think Nevada come on notice there's 191 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:03,530 aliens right but there's not any 192 00:09:10,030 --> 00:09:07,010 monsters and you know that's not really 193 00:09:13,090 --> 00:09:10,040 the case I dug up a lot of fascinating 194 00:09:16,540 --> 00:09:13,100 things in Nevada and I've investigated 195 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:16,550 in every state and have you know just 196 00:09:20,350 --> 00:09:18,740 massive case files from the years I've 197 00:09:22,270 --> 00:09:20,360 been to the stuff since the seventies so 198 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,280 you know the things I've collected over 199 00:09:26,050 --> 00:09:24,320 the years from commuter personal 200 00:09:28,570 --> 00:09:26,060 investigations interviewing witnesses 201 00:09:30,130 --> 00:09:28,580 and things people are sent to me you 202 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:30,140 know I started realizing I was a lot of 203 00:09:35,890 --> 00:09:32,330 this stuff that and people either either 204 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:35,900 either haven't heard or you know they're 205 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:37,850 just not familiar with because it's so 206 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:40,610 obscure so I did the book which was 207 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:43,010 really well received and then I did 208 00:09:49,930 --> 00:09:45,710 Arizona which also had a ton of case 209 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:49,940 files on and you know the I just kind of 210 00:09:54,010 --> 00:09:52,160 felt like I was going to keep going and 211 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:54,020 I started looking at what state I was 212 00:09:57,070 --> 00:09:54,890 going to do next 213 00:09:59,250 --> 00:09:57,080 I had recently spent some more time in 214 00:10:02,210 --> 00:09:59,260 Alaska and 215 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:02,220 you know it's a pretty fascinating place 216 00:10:09,060 --> 00:10:05,770 was a very every one of these books has 217 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:09,070 been very unique to write just as unique 218 00:10:15,870 --> 00:10:12,400 as the state is Alaska almost more so in 219 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:15,880 some ways because it's almost the polar 220 00:10:21,810 --> 00:10:19,690 opposite of Nevada you know I I pretty 221 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:21,820 much feel confident that it included 222 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:23,710 almost everything you know it's probably 223 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:25,750 I'm sure there's a few cases here and 224 00:10:31,650 --> 00:10:28,710 there that maybe I didn't come across or 225 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:31,660 that it just happened but with Alaska 226 00:10:36,930 --> 00:10:34,450 the polar opposite I had so much there's 227 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:36,940 so many sightings so many encounters up 228 00:10:42,540 --> 00:10:39,730 there I really had to kind of distill a 229 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:42,550 lot of that down in some portions of the 230 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:44,170 book particularly the session about 231 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:47,410 sasquatch because really I mean you 232 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:49,720 could you could easily feel body fill 233 00:10:56,970 --> 00:10:54,130 volumes on on Sasquatch encounters an 234 00:10:59,220 --> 00:10:56,980 Alaskan Robert Ally of course has done 235 00:11:02,400 --> 00:10:59,230 some incredible work with Raincoast 236 00:11:03,690 --> 00:11:02,410 Sasquatch and he's got something new 237 00:11:05,850 --> 00:11:03,700 coming out to cover some of the 238 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:05,860 sightings in Alaska but you know that's 239 00:11:10,170 --> 00:11:08,110 just an example of a singular focus I 240 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:10,180 wanted to address that but I also wanted 241 00:11:14,310 --> 00:11:12,520 to address a lot of the other cryptids 242 00:11:16,530 --> 00:11:14,320 in the state many of them that people 243 00:11:20,430 --> 00:11:16,540 just aren't very familiar with or don't 244 00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:20,440 hear much about so that was yeah I guess 245 00:11:26,610 --> 00:11:23,830 kinda how it came about I find Alaska a 246 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:26,620 very fascinating place I I couldn't 247 00:11:30,330 --> 00:11:28,210 imagine living there because I don't 248 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:30,340 really prefer that kind of cold you know 249 00:11:36,660 --> 00:11:33,520 like create abortion yeah but but at the 250 00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:36,670 same time there's a certain mystery and 251 00:11:42,990 --> 00:11:40,120 almost mysticism about the the 252 00:11:45,060 --> 00:11:43,000 environment about the land itself okay 253 00:11:48,390 --> 00:11:45,070 and of course there's so many 254 00:11:51,090 --> 00:11:48,400 fascinating facets of the folklore and 255 00:11:54,710 --> 00:11:51,100 the native traditions and everything 256 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:54,720 else up there that it's just really is a 257 00:12:01,830 --> 00:11:59,920 goldmine of fascinating stories yeah you 258 00:12:04,470 --> 00:12:01,840 know I've had several reports come out 259 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:04,480 of Alaska mostly to do with hairy 260 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:09,970 hominids or unusual bipeds it seems like 261 00:12:15,450 --> 00:12:11,750 every Inuit group 262 00:12:18,820 --> 00:12:15,460 there has their own name for the beans 263 00:12:22,660 --> 00:12:18,830 you know I've even had people tell me 264 00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:22,670 that they appear as either some type of 265 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:26,600 shadow being that they they really don't 266 00:12:30,670 --> 00:12:28,610 know what it is but they believe it's to 267 00:12:33,580 --> 00:12:30,680 come choco or whatever they want to call 268 00:12:36,670 --> 00:12:33,590 it you know the the Ottoman or the you 269 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:36,680 know the other types of names that they 270 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,680 use for the these beings anywhere and 271 00:12:44,860 --> 00:12:41,600 I've had these sightings anywhere from 272 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:44,870 the Kenai Peninsula of Westover in 273 00:12:49,540 --> 00:12:47,090 senescent Nelson Island I mean they're 274 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:49,550 just thousands of sightings and 275 00:12:57,250 --> 00:12:54,530 encounters yeah very much so and you 276 00:13:00,100 --> 00:12:57,260 know you bring up the otter man which is 277 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:00,110 also known as the kushtaka yeah Coosh 278 00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:04,730 macaw and that really was I always try 279 00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:07,280 to be incredibly respectful of native 280 00:13:12,630 --> 00:13:10,190 traditions I've been blessed throughout 281 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:12,640 my life to have spent a lot of time with 282 00:13:18,010 --> 00:13:15,170 elders from various native traditions 283 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:18,020 and and learned a lot of things and you 284 00:13:25,390 --> 00:13:21,170 know as a result and just out of pure 285 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:25,400 respect also I tried to to portray those 286 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:27,560 names very accurately and and you know 287 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:29,870 navigate that territory very carefully 288 00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:34,720 the acoustic Isle was a very interesting 289 00:13:43,090 --> 00:13:39,470 case because you know first of all a lot 290 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:43,100 of a lot of Bigfoot researchers 291 00:13:50,170 --> 00:13:48,470 mistakenly believe that when Alaskan 292 00:13:51,610 --> 00:13:50,180 tribal peoples are talking about the 293 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:51,620 Krishna combat they're talking about 294 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:54,170 essentially a sasquatch and you know 295 00:13:59,410 --> 00:13:56,150 I've talked to elders up there that are 296 00:14:02,590 --> 00:13:59,420 very adamant and that they are not the 297 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:02,600 same thing and really when you hear the 298 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:04,520 stories and delve into the mythos you 299 00:14:09,010 --> 00:14:06,770 begin to understand and we're talking 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:09,020 about two very distinct things in their 301 00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:12,770 world view because the has you stated 302 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:16,280 all of these tribes they all have names 303 00:14:22,510 --> 00:14:19,070 for the hairy man and there's there's so 304 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:22,520 many different terms in Alaska because 305 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:24,200 there's so many different different 306 00:14:29,340 --> 00:14:25,460 tribes 307 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:29,350 they all have words that essentially 308 00:14:35,020 --> 00:14:31,610 describe a hairy man that we would call 309 00:14:36,490 --> 00:14:35,030 Sasquatch or Bigfoot now when they start 310 00:14:39,930 --> 00:14:36,500 talking about the Krishna it's a very 311 00:14:43,060 --> 00:14:39,940 different thing because the crucifies a 312 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:43,070 shape-shifter and it is difficult and 313 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:47,810 otter person an otter man and this the 314 00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:50,810 the roar that revolves around this 315 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:53,420 creature it's sort of guessed in a very 316 00:14:59,620 --> 00:14:56,000 part of some of their spiritual beliefs 317 00:15:03,820 --> 00:14:59,630 because this creature comes about as a 318 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:03,830 result of Oh what would may be roughly 319 00:15:09,930 --> 00:15:07,250 translated as a person being lost has 320 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:09,940 their spirit or the soul being lost 321 00:15:15,130 --> 00:15:12,470 maybe in the wilderness or maybe in the 322 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:15,140 water and going to a transformative 323 00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:19,220 process that is a attend to death in a 324 00:15:27,550 --> 00:15:25,430 sense and if this occurs sometimes these 325 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:27,560 creatures other Krishna [\h__\h] can come 326 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:30,530 and save this person but the only way to 327 00:15:36,130 --> 00:15:34,310 save them is to transform them into one 328 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:36,140 of their kind and they're no longer 329 00:15:40,810 --> 00:15:38,930 human now it means a really delicate 330 00:15:43,990 --> 00:15:40,820 territory because in some of the 331 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:44,000 traditions there is a monic process 332 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:45,110 through which the person can be 333 00:15:50,410 --> 00:15:47,390 retrieved and saved but only if they've 334 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:50,420 gotten to him in time so it's a really 335 00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:52,610 fascinating family we're continuing to 336 00:15:56,530 --> 00:15:54,230 talk about resolve evening because 337 00:15:57,850 --> 00:15:56,540 there's so many complexities to it but 338 00:16:00,580 --> 00:15:57,860 essentially you know we're talking about 339 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:00,590 something kind of akin to a skinwalker 340 00:16:07,170 --> 00:16:05,210 in the southwest they accept that it's 341 00:16:10,150 --> 00:16:07,180 not voluntary something that occurs 342 00:16:12,270 --> 00:16:10,160 involuntarily because of circumstances 343 00:16:16,690 --> 00:16:12,280 that causes this person to be 344 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:16,700 transformed into a what looks like a 345 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:19,970 bipedal otter and it's I know that 346 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:21,680 sounds very strange if you've never 347 00:16:28,210 --> 00:16:25,010 heard this before it could sound almost 348 00:16:30,490 --> 00:16:28,220 kind of comical the the painting on the 349 00:16:33,340 --> 00:16:30,500 front of the book was another amazing 350 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:33,350 cover by Sam Sharon's doing the covers 351 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:35,930 for all of this series and when I threw 352 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:38,910 this one out and you know what's pretty 353 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:41,010 what a good challenge I think you know 354 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:44,280 it can't be overly creepy and it can't 355 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:46,650 be you know goosey looking either and I 356 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:48,770 think he came up with a an amazing 357 00:16:53,630 --> 00:16:51,570 portrayal of this creature on on this 358 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:53,640 one of the book oh yeah you know I was 359 00:16:58,850 --> 00:16:56,370 surprised when I first looked at it and 360 00:17:05,180 --> 00:16:58,860 I mean if that's what people are saying 361 00:17:08,330 --> 00:17:05,190 I mean my god I'm telling you it's it's 362 00:17:11,330 --> 00:17:08,340 it's I mean you can it looks like an 363 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:11,340 otter but I guess some people could you 364 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:13,710 know was taken before a Bigfoot I mean 365 00:17:19,870 --> 00:17:17,880 the way it's built and the size and you 366 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:19,880 know it's funny you talked about the 367 00:17:25,670 --> 00:17:23,790 he's being shapeshifters I mean the 368 00:17:29,150 --> 00:17:25,680 they're kind of their versions getting 369 00:17:30,770 --> 00:17:29,160 Walker I that's kind of what it sounded 370 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:30,780 like to me when I've gotten these 371 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:34,830 reports I know there's a tribe not far 372 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:38,220 from Bethel that the gentleman had 373 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:40,970 contacted me and talked to me about this 374 00:17:47,690 --> 00:17:44,250 there's being that it looked and acted 375 00:17:51,620 --> 00:17:47,700 like the a Bigfoot but it came out of 376 00:17:53,630 --> 00:17:51,630 the ocean he called it a lion but it 377 00:17:56,540 --> 00:17:53,640 would come out of the ocean and chase 378 00:17:59,150 --> 00:17:56,550 them at night when they were out on 379 00:18:02,450 --> 00:17:59,160 their on their snowmobiles 380 00:18:05,090 --> 00:18:02,460 it's weird stories like that I mean you 381 00:18:06,530 --> 00:18:05,100 know they knew what it was but you know 382 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:06,540 this thing would actually be able to 383 00:18:10,820 --> 00:18:08,460 keep up with them as it was chasing them 384 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:10,830 so of course they would you know not go 385 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:13,410 out at night anymore and which is kind 386 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:14,850 of hard to do during the wintertime 387 00:18:20,330 --> 00:18:16,890 because it's dark most the time anyway 388 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:20,340 so yeah there's some really crazy 389 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:24,510 stories I agree with you well in these 390 00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:26,610 you know these creatures when you start 391 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:30,420 delving into different aspects of the 392 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:33,630 tradition and and understand their 393 00:18:39,020 --> 00:18:36,750 perspective it emits a little bit more 394 00:18:41,330 --> 00:18:39,030 sense to you you know you know these 395 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:41,340 these are very old stories and they come 396 00:18:47,090 --> 00:18:43,710 from tribal people that would very close 397 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:47,100 to land so in Alaska the otter is a 398 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:51,210 unique animal because they're its it can 399 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:52,530 live on land and 400 00:18:58,550 --> 00:18:55,650 the water so in that sense sort of an 401 00:19:01,010 --> 00:18:58,560 in-between creature to begin with you 402 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:01,020 know something that can live in two 403 00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:02,850 worlds so to speak 404 00:19:10,610 --> 00:19:07,520 and you know they're very honors a very 405 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:10,620 family-oriented you know they're often 406 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:13,440 seen as very joyous creatures and by 407 00:19:19,940 --> 00:19:17,610 people who are studying you know kind of 408 00:19:22,970 --> 00:19:19,950 those human animal relations and so 409 00:19:24,500 --> 00:19:22,980 forth and you know when you start taking 410 00:19:27,170 --> 00:19:24,510 those things into account you can kind 411 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:27,180 of understand okay well I'm honor is a 412 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:29,340 very unique creature in that environment 413 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:32,220 and taken from the perspective that it 414 00:19:36,710 --> 00:19:34,650 drawls in two worlds to begin with you 415 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:36,720 can be embassy the shape-shifting 416 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:39,360 connection that maybe would develop and 417 00:19:43,970 --> 00:19:41,610 you know certainly for someone who goes 418 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:43,980 through that transformative process into 419 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:47,490 another world then you know there you go 420 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:51,410 all right now I guess the most famous 421 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:55,410 encounter case in Alaska as far as 422 00:20:01,580 --> 00:19:56,340 bipeds 423 00:20:03,230 --> 00:20:01,590 or Sasquatch would be for Chatham what's 424 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:03,240 your take on that whole mystery can you 425 00:20:07,130 --> 00:20:04,770 kind of go into the bed I've talked 426 00:20:10,250 --> 00:20:07,140 about before with others but what's your 427 00:20:13,370 --> 00:20:10,260 take on it yeah this is this is a 428 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:13,380 fascinating case Torche happens also 429 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:16,110 known as Portlock right it's a little 430 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:20,100 town that began to develop in for the 431 00:20:28,610 --> 00:20:23,490 1920s and it was cannery town it never 432 00:20:30,650 --> 00:20:28,620 really grew to any too much size you 433 00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:30,660 know it only had a small number of 434 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:32,460 citizens who lived there they all worked 435 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:38,400 for the canopy and it wasn't until much 436 00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:43,110 later in the 40s or so rather than 30s 437 00:20:49,340 --> 00:20:45,740 when the town actually had a post office 438 00:20:54,110 --> 00:20:49,350 but what happens with this town first of 439 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:54,120 all it's just kind of isolated it's it 440 00:21:01,070 --> 00:20:58,170 starts having these strange occurrences 441 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:01,080 in the 1930s and begins where the 442 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:04,770 gentleman who is just in the hills 443 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:06,130 outside of town 444 00:21:11,250 --> 00:21:09,520 who they find murdered now you know put 445 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:11,260 yourself in this mind does a very small 446 00:21:15,540 --> 00:21:13,150 community they all work for the cannery 447 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:15,550 they all know each other suddenly son is 448 00:21:21,300 --> 00:21:18,910 dead and it appears to be that the 449 00:21:21,870 --> 00:21:21,310 person has been murdered but here's the 450 00:21:25,860 --> 00:21:21,880 kicker 451 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:25,870 the guy was murdered with a blow to his 452 00:21:31,230 --> 00:21:28,540 head by a piece of logging equipment now 453 00:21:35,220 --> 00:21:31,240 this piece of logging equipment was too 454 00:21:38,970 --> 00:21:35,230 massive sir for single man to move so 455 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:38,980 this mystery begins to develop you know 456 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:43,690 what what possibly lifted this massive 457 00:21:51,390 --> 00:21:45,730 piece of logging equipment and struck 458 00:21:53,730 --> 00:21:51,400 this man down so after this other people 459 00:21:56,910 --> 00:21:53,740 begin to disappear and the area hunters 460 00:21:57,180 --> 00:21:56,920 go up into the hills and they don't come 461 00:22:01,320 --> 00:21:57,190 back 462 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,330 there are gruesome legends that pieces 463 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:04,480 of their body would wash down into the 464 00:22:11,310 --> 00:22:08,050 town in their river and it was clear 465 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:11,320 that they had been mauled and torn up by 466 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:13,210 something but the March did not match a 467 00:22:23,580 --> 00:22:20,710 bear the the town somewhere around the 468 00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:23,590 world war ii period is just after the 469 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:27,880 town is suddenly abandoned and the story 470 00:22:33,270 --> 00:22:30,850 you know this this is not just an urban 471 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:33,280 legend the story's been reported in an 472 00:22:40,650 --> 00:22:37,530 alaskan media reported in the 70s 473 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:40,660 supported again early to thousands of 474 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:43,510 actually at one point interviewed a 475 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:46,690 woman who was an elder originally from 476 00:22:53,820 --> 00:22:49,570 the town and she was born in porchetta 477 00:22:57,570 --> 00:22:53,830 mid 1930s early 1930s she had distinct 478 00:23:01,290 --> 00:22:57,580 memories of being a little girl and that 479 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:01,300 suddenly the whole town said we're 480 00:23:06,930 --> 00:23:04,720 moving we're all leaving they were they 481 00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:06,940 were told to gather all of their things 482 00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:09,520 up the schools were closed the hounds 483 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:12,340 were shuttered and that hole left on 484 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:14,170 mass and went to another town to live 485 00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:17,210 now she says that 486 00:23:23,649 --> 00:23:19,849 the whole village left because of the 487 00:23:27,129 --> 00:23:23,659 menteng that that is one of the regional 488 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:27,139 names that essentially translates a big 489 00:23:32,049 --> 00:23:30,830 hairy man so the stories are there was 490 00:23:37,299 --> 00:23:32,059 massive 491 00:23:39,999 --> 00:23:37,309 hairy man's sasquatch living around the 492 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:40,009 area outside of ports on Thurman it was 493 00:23:46,299 --> 00:23:41,330 very territorial 494 00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,309 and would you know had killed some of 495 00:23:50,349 --> 00:23:48,559 these hunters a lot of other stories 496 00:23:55,049 --> 00:23:50,359 that are mixed you know people spotting 497 00:23:58,659 --> 00:23:55,059 18-inch footprints a story of hunters 498 00:24:02,649 --> 00:23:58,669 following a moose moose tracks and that 499 00:24:05,589 --> 00:24:02,659 suddenly the Moose Tracks just stop 500 00:24:08,769 --> 00:24:05,599 there signs of a scuffle and there's 501 00:24:11,919 --> 00:24:08,779 nothing no more moose tracks but there 502 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:11,929 are a set of 18-inch tracks that lead 503 00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:15,440 away from the scene these appear to be 504 00:24:20,709 --> 00:24:18,289 bare human footprints at least something 505 00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:20,719 to Candida I mean obviously much larger 506 00:24:26,589 --> 00:24:24,289 than any man so this is a fascinating 507 00:24:28,749 --> 00:24:26,599 story abandoned town still sits there 508 00:24:31,139 --> 00:24:28,759 I've tried on a couple of occasions to 509 00:24:36,219 --> 00:24:31,149 get to it it it's difficult to access 510 00:24:38,409 --> 00:24:36,229 because of its location and it really 511 00:24:41,229 --> 00:24:38,419 really takes a bit of planning now I 512 00:24:43,690 --> 00:24:41,239 have spoken to some people who have been 513 00:24:46,839 --> 00:24:43,700 to Port chasm and investigated the site 514 00:24:49,089 --> 00:24:46,849 and you know I've heard firsthand from 515 00:24:52,239 --> 00:24:49,099 them that it is a very strange place 516 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:52,249 even to this day obviously a lot of the 517 00:24:57,009 --> 00:24:54,049 native people won't go there it's just 518 00:24:59,979 --> 00:24:57,019 become kind of 10b but of course you 519 00:25:02,440 --> 00:24:59,989 know that just draws people me yeah 520 00:25:04,329 --> 00:25:02,450 absolute last minute you know by the 521 00:25:07,779 --> 00:25:04,339 legend so I know some of these people 522 00:25:09,849 --> 00:25:07,789 that have gone and investigated and they 523 00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:09,859 report things some of these guys very 524 00:25:15,099 --> 00:25:11,960 seasoned investigators and they report 525 00:25:18,849 --> 00:25:15,109 these strange feelings of being watched 526 00:25:22,299 --> 00:25:18,859 while they're in the town you know a few 527 00:25:24,009 --> 00:25:22,309 people have heard sounds you know around 528 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:24,019 the town from the woods outside of the 529 00:25:28,209 --> 00:25:26,690 town that they equate was something 530 00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:28,219 that's likely a Sasquatch or a Bigfoot 531 00:25:32,919 --> 00:25:30,980 so it appears that 532 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:32,929 you know whatever creature or creatures 533 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:35,929 were living out around this town were 534 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:41,600 very territorial and remain remain there 535 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:42,290 to this day 536 00:25:48,820 --> 00:25:46,640 still just protecting their land yeah I 537 00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:48,830 am it must be something going on because 538 00:25:54,430 --> 00:25:50,960 quite frankly nobody's tried to resettle 539 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:54,440 here and I know a lot of old women 540 00:25:59,020 --> 00:25:57,530 staying around that's still there some 541 00:26:02,380 --> 00:25:59,030 parts of the Hat you know homes that 542 00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:02,390 were still there but uh I have seen at 543 00:26:10,380 --> 00:26:06,620 least one film that was taken on an 544 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:10,390 expedition there and it is quite eerie I 545 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:13,490 I don't know if they really came up with 546 00:26:20,190 --> 00:26:16,280 any solid evidence but the fact they 547 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:20,200 were there and some of their 548 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:23,210 recollections of what they felt and off 549 00:26:28,299 --> 00:26:26,210 telling things seemed was pretty spooky 550 00:26:33,130 --> 00:26:28,309 but you know for a fact I mean you know 551 00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:33,140 you hung around Casey for years and you 552 00:26:38,340 --> 00:26:35,929 seen stuff all over the contract as far 553 00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:38,350 as with Bigfoot and other cryptids go 554 00:26:44,650 --> 00:26:42,049 there just somewhat supernatural aspect 555 00:26:46,210 --> 00:26:44,660 to it that is just unexplained and of 556 00:26:49,390 --> 00:26:46,220 course you know that may very well be 557 00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:49,400 what's going on yeah oh yeah and then 558 00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:50,960 you know you've got other factors that 559 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:55,390 come in to the remoteness of velasca and 560 00:27:00,190 --> 00:26:58,610 you know the state itself and then of 561 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:00,200 course within the state you know the 562 00:27:05,230 --> 00:27:02,690 remoteness of allah these places like 563 00:27:10,030 --> 00:27:05,240 this little village kind of you know off 564 00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:10,040 to itself you know the largest town or 565 00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:12,350 the city of courses anchors and even it 566 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:14,270 is not competitively it's not that large 567 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:17,210 you know it's not like a chicago or 568 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:18,980 something so you know you're talking 569 00:27:24,820 --> 00:27:23,360 about a very stark landscape and a lot 570 00:27:26,289 --> 00:27:24,830 of the people a lot of people don't 571 00:27:29,470 --> 00:27:26,299 realize how how large 572 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:29,480 alaska is you know it's a massive state 573 00:27:36,190 --> 00:27:32,450 and I tell people you know you you have 574 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:36,200 to really to in a clear concept you can 575 00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:39,950 go online and you type in alas that 576 00:27:44,110 --> 00:27:41,929 something like Alaska superimposed over 577 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:44,120 the lower 48 and most people would be 578 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:44,930 shocked 579 00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:48,770 and how large the state of Alaska looks 580 00:27:57,010 --> 00:27:53,950 overtop the lower 48 states and you know 581 00:27:59,650 --> 00:27:57,020 incredibly sparsely populated overall 582 00:28:02,740 --> 00:27:59,660 because of course much of it is tongue 583 00:28:05,890 --> 00:28:02,750 very remote areas that are just not 584 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:05,900 really inhabitable but even that the 585 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:07,760 small villages and stuff that I was 586 00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:09,830 scattered about I know often very tiny 587 00:28:17,050 --> 00:28:13,520 and so much little animals and so much 588 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:17,060 wildlife so it's very conceivable of 589 00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:19,340 that there are plenty of things living 590 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:21,320 in the wild up there that that are yet 591 00:28:26,740 --> 00:28:22,130 to be discovered 592 00:28:29,140 --> 00:28:26,750 oh yeah yeah well that brings us to one 593 00:28:32,980 --> 00:28:29,150 of the more fascinating areas to do with 594 00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:32,990 Alaska assembly aquatic life or aquatic 595 00:28:40,060 --> 00:28:38,270 cryptids that people describe what which 596 00:28:42,910 --> 00:28:40,070 one fascinates you the most I mean I've 597 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:42,920 heard so many which one fascinate you 598 00:28:49,330 --> 00:28:48,350 the most oh well they're all incredibly 599 00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:49,340 fascinating yeah 600 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:52,220 intrigued by the luckily I'm not on stir 601 00:28:56,110 --> 00:28:54,590 now lately on those fascinating for a 602 00:28:59,230 --> 00:28:56,120 number of reasons because first of all 603 00:29:00,520 --> 00:28:59,240 there are it's kind of a hot spot across 604 00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:00,530 the board cuz there's a Squatch 605 00:29:08,740 --> 00:29:05,960 sightings around that area too and you 606 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:08,750 know there's a great Sasquatch story how 607 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:10,730 I get to the lake monster in a minute 608 00:29:15,850 --> 00:29:12,770 but it was a great Sasquatch story that 609 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:15,860 came out of Lake Iliamna because there's 610 00:29:22,570 --> 00:29:19,850 a there's a little little business there 611 00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:22,580 that you go and stay and of course it's 612 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:25,390 a an area that draws fishermen and 613 00:29:31,540 --> 00:29:27,710 outdoorsmen and stuff when the weather 614 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:31,550 is suitable but there was a a gentleman 615 00:29:37,450 --> 00:29:35,810 who was working there and and he it was 616 00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:37,460 not you know some area everybody knows 617 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:40,670 everybody else right and uh this guy he 618 00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:45,170 was known as you know he would he would 619 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:47,030 hit the booze every once in a while and 620 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:49,130 you know it's kind of a you know the 621 00:29:53,970 --> 00:29:51,170 last and outdoorsman you know it's a 622 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:53,980 private job but he was he was driving 623 00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,410 near the lake one day and spotted this 624 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:00,480 giant hairy creature caught crossing the 625 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:06,090 road and you know this is very much at 626 00:30:12,740 --> 00:30:10,470 that frontier attitude of a lot of 627 00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:12,750 people in Alaska his reaction was he 628 00:30:25,460 --> 00:30:20,480 pistol out of his glove box and took a 629 00:30:27,290 --> 00:30:25,470 shot at this thing and play the oh well 630 00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,300 in the area it doesn't know what it is 631 00:30:32,660 --> 00:30:29,760 exactly but he's just taking a shot at 632 00:30:36,020 --> 00:30:32,670 it anyway and mizzen tells his story now 633 00:30:38,750 --> 00:30:36,030 the first reaction was okay well you 634 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:38,760 know he's he's had a few drinks and he's 635 00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:41,310 seeing things or whatever but some of 636 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:44,070 the guys from the aerial meant to just 637 00:30:48,110 --> 00:30:46,290 out of curiosity to see the sight that 638 00:30:51,380 --> 00:30:48,120 he was talking about him and they did 639 00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,390 they found these these tracks that they 640 00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:53,520 could not explain furthermore they found 641 00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:55,830 that the path this thing took crossing 642 00:31:00,080 --> 00:30:58,320 from one side of the other to the other 643 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:00,090 of the road you know the embankment was 644 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:01,530 really high it wasn't something that a 645 00:31:06,140 --> 00:31:04,620 human could easily navigate so didn't 646 00:31:08,390 --> 00:31:06,150 have any explanation as to what was 647 00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:08,400 going on here and has the talk spread 648 00:31:13,070 --> 00:31:10,620 around of course some of the local 649 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:13,080 native people said oh yeah it's the 650 00:31:18,290 --> 00:31:15,090 hairy man we know about it means those 651 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:18,300 are around here so again you know here's 652 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:21,690 an area that the stories go way way back 653 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,510 in local tradition but it's just kept 654 00:31:29,410 --> 00:31:27,480 very quiet because you know the tribal 655 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:29,420 people don't want to disturb this thing 656 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:34,770 the you know yeah the media gets ahold 657 00:31:38,780 --> 00:31:36,210 of it they want a whole lot of attention 658 00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:38,790 put on it and of course that gets shut 659 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:41,280 down by the locals but you know the 660 00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:43,650 stories persist and of course in the 661 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:45,540 midst of all of this happening we also 662 00:31:50,290 --> 00:31:47,310 have the legends surrounding the lake 663 00:31:54,220 --> 00:31:50,300 itself that this monster that reportedly 664 00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:54,230 exists in there and it's it's known as 665 00:32:02,840 --> 00:31:59,880 the Lake Iliamna monster some people 666 00:32:05,090 --> 00:32:02,850 refer to it as illy and different 667 00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,100 stories about exactly what this thing is 668 00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:06,960 now I think this one's kind of 669 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:09,150 fascinating because I I believe it's 670 00:32:16,519 --> 00:32:12,210 probably a giant sturgeon 671 00:32:18,889 --> 00:32:16,529 and you know when you when you look at 672 00:32:21,139 --> 00:32:18,899 how large some of these creatures can 673 00:32:24,379 --> 00:32:21,149 get know maybe some people be 674 00:32:27,139 --> 00:32:24,389 disappointed in that but you know these 675 00:32:31,789 --> 00:32:27,149 same state and dinosaurs I mean these 676 00:32:34,009 --> 00:32:31,799 are massive massive fish and if there's 677 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:34,019 one that's in there that has grown you 678 00:32:38,259 --> 00:32:36,330 know to extraordinary size that in 679 00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:38,269 itself would be a pretty amazing find 680 00:32:44,739 --> 00:32:42,480 right there there are stories of you 681 00:32:48,739 --> 00:32:44,749 know the famous Monster Hunter Tom slick 682 00:32:51,499 --> 00:32:48,749 tried to to catch this thing there's 683 00:32:53,389 --> 00:32:51,509 guys that that he hired to try to 684 00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:53,399 capture this monster there was a story 685 00:33:03,320 --> 00:32:58,740 about these guys have used a 55-gallon 686 00:33:07,629 --> 00:33:03,330 oil drum as a bobber they hatched it 687 00:33:11,690 --> 00:33:07,639 they attached it to this massive 688 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:11,700 quarter-inch thick iron hook that they 689 00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:14,850 baited with a chunk of moose flesh they 690 00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:17,399 threw this in they used 16 inch 691 00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:20,700 stainless steel aircraft cable for the 692 00:33:28,999 --> 00:33:25,070 line she went fishing for this creature 693 00:33:32,539 --> 00:33:29,009 now you would think okay they maybe have 694 00:33:37,249 --> 00:33:32,549 a good shot no whatever this thing was 695 00:33:40,909 --> 00:33:37,259 they hooked it this one it's not rough 696 00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:40,919 on aircraft cable yeah 697 00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:46,590 snapped in two so you know whatever is 698 00:33:53,239 --> 00:33:50,539 down there is something that is uh 699 00:33:56,509 --> 00:33:53,249 pretty impressive even if it's a known 700 00:34:02,029 --> 00:33:56,519 animal it's it's pretty daggone 701 00:34:06,049 --> 00:34:02,039 impressive and you know the the sturgeon 702 00:34:07,730 --> 00:34:06,059 theory it's it's one of the ones that's 703 00:34:09,950 --> 00:34:07,740 floated around you know some people 704 00:34:14,109 --> 00:34:09,960 think it's some kind of a sleeper shark 705 00:34:17,059 --> 00:34:14,119 or you know some kind of a freshwater 706 00:34:21,220 --> 00:34:17,069 whale type of creature a lot of deer has 707 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:21,230 been bandied about but all that aside 708 00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:23,700 it's uh 709 00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:27,419 you know it's something that nobody has 710 00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:31,730 exactly been able to hook and prove yet 711 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:34,079 yeah I know it's a I know it's a large 712 00:34:39,379 --> 00:34:37,050 lake and it's it does seem like it's 713 00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:39,389 landlocked I don't think that I'm even 714 00:34:47,180 --> 00:34:45,179 though this close to the ocean but I you 715 00:34:50,169 --> 00:34:47,190 know other than like you said a sturgeon 716 00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:50,179 I could even dream of what this may be 717 00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:52,710 yeah and I mean it could be something 718 00:35:00,650 --> 00:34:57,480 you know that it's just unknown or you 719 00:35:02,210 --> 00:35:00,660 know a lost creature that we just know 720 00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:02,220 we think as it's been that's very 721 00:35:07,910 --> 00:35:05,310 possible in a place like Alaska but 722 00:35:09,770 --> 00:35:07,920 never the white sturgeon at this point 723 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,780 is pretty good candidate and just 724 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:12,000 because of the size and because of the 725 00:35:15,740 --> 00:35:13,890 armor plating that they have on the back 726 00:35:17,150 --> 00:35:15,750 here on like I said they were very 727 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:17,160 pretty story they're very powerful 728 00:35:23,859 --> 00:35:19,410 creatures Jeremy Wade went up there 729 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:23,869 River Monsters and he went searching for 730 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:26,490 whatever was in the lake and he came 731 00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:28,710 away convinced that it was it was 732 00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:31,380 probably a sturgeon because he heard 733 00:35:36,410 --> 00:35:33,599 stories from some of the locals who 734 00:35:39,410 --> 00:35:36,420 wouldn't really talk you know much to 735 00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,420 the media or anybody else but he's got a 736 00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:42,000 talent and a knack for you know talking 737 00:35:44,569 --> 00:35:44,160 to people just other fishermen and so 738 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:44,579 forth 739 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:47,010 and he heard stories from people who 740 00:35:51,020 --> 00:35:49,020 said no they didn't seem the thing and 741 00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:51,030 it was a sturgeon that was living in 742 00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:54,000 there but again you know that's just as 743 00:35:58,460 --> 00:35:55,680 impressive just because the the 744 00:36:01,670 --> 00:35:58,470 potential massive size of this creature 745 00:36:03,710 --> 00:36:01,680 I mean snapping uh you know 16-inch 746 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:03,720 aircraft cable that's an impressive food 747 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,030 no matter what it is yeah really I don't 748 00:36:12,050 --> 00:36:09,359 even think a bear could do that no yeah 749 00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:12,060 that's that's amazing well speaking of 750 00:36:18,140 --> 00:36:13,950 bears did you were you were able to get 751 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:18,150 over to Kodiak at all and look at that 752 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:21,210 place and maybe hear any stories that 753 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:24,210 came out of Kodiak as much as you would 754 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:25,710 think from there I may have some 755 00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:27,990 Sasquatch accounts you pretty much find 756 00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:29,700 Sasquatch accounts everywhere and 757 00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:33,140 actually uh there in the state there's 758 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:36,329 there's legends they're better legends 759 00:36:40,310 --> 00:36:37,410 here and there but 760 00:36:43,010 --> 00:36:40,320 they are so scant that it's it's 761 00:36:46,070 --> 00:36:43,020 difficult to paint a whole lot down and 762 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:46,080 you talk in the book about the legend of 763 00:36:52,070 --> 00:36:48,960 the ten sorted bear that some of the 764 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:52,080 native tribes talked about and this 765 00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:55,530 whole legend of this massive bear that 766 00:37:02,450 --> 00:36:59,010 purportedly used to live in in remote 767 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:02,460 parts of Alaska and you know I'm not 768 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:04,110 necessarily saying it had you know 769 00:37:09,260 --> 00:37:06,450 really had ten feet but at the same time 770 00:37:12,740 --> 00:37:09,270 you know you can imagine something even 771 00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:12,750 much larger potentially than the common 772 00:37:17,690 --> 00:37:15,840 grizzly bears that we know about and you 773 00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,700 know maybe some kind of a hybrid or 774 00:37:22,250 --> 00:37:19,440 something that could exist in some of 775 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:22,260 the remote areas well you know they have 776 00:37:28,370 --> 00:37:25,020 talked about a type of grizzly brown 777 00:37:31,340 --> 00:37:28,380 bear mixed with a polar bear for years 778 00:37:35,030 --> 00:37:31,350 now and I think maybe maybe some DNA 779 00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:35,040 evidence of that I don't know and I 780 00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:36,750 discussed I discussed that a little bit 781 00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:38,220 in the book yeah yeah I think some of 782 00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:40,380 these I think some of these hybrids you 783 00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:45,720 know has as we learn more you know about 784 00:37:50,090 --> 00:37:47,640 what's out there in the wild and we see 785 00:37:51,530 --> 00:37:50,100 more interconnectedness of various 786 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:51,540 species I think we'll see more and more 787 00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:54,510 that proven and you know that it'll show 788 00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:57,270 some of these unusual sightings that 789 00:38:01,820 --> 00:38:00,480 maybe as they can be accounted and 790 00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:01,830 forward by some of these hybrid 791 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:03,620 creatures mm-hmm 792 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:06,810 now you know I've been into the winged 793 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:10,140 cryptid thing more recently than before 794 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:13,530 but I had been for a long time what what 795 00:38:18,130 --> 00:38:17,130 type of winged cryptids have you heard 796 00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:18,140 about up there 797 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:20,820 well Thunderbirds are the big one yes 798 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:24,690 and you know the Thunderbird legends of 799 00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:27,540 course again go back amongst the native 800 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:30,030 people up there but there's also been 801 00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:32,630 some fairly modern sightings mayors a 802 00:38:42,590 --> 00:38:38,900 famous sighting in 1970s there was a 803 00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:42,600 gentleman who was flying a Cessna 207 804 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:46,800 and he saw this when he described this 805 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:50,370 as massive bird now he he believed that 806 00:38:54,330 --> 00:38:51,280 the wingspan 807 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:54,340 was about 14 feet he calculated that 808 00:39:01,410 --> 00:38:58,930 from from his experience with his claim 809 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:01,420 and gauging that by you know the winter 810 00:39:05,190 --> 00:39:04,060 formative assessments he was funny well 811 00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:05,200 that's that's a pretty impressive 812 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:07,560 wingspan it's yeah 813 00:39:14,370 --> 00:39:10,810 not necessarily outside the bounds of 814 00:39:16,290 --> 00:39:14,380 you know a known creature but at the 815 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:16,300 same time you know it's not something 816 00:39:19,830 --> 00:39:17,830 you necessarily want to see sweeping 817 00:39:26,070 --> 00:39:19,840 down on you when you're out walking your 818 00:39:27,770 --> 00:39:26,080 dogs or something you know there's some 819 00:39:31,740 --> 00:39:27,780 pretty amazing things I mean there was a 820 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:31,750 person sighting in January 2018 so just 821 00:39:40,740 --> 00:39:36,660 a couple of years ago and this was 822 00:39:44,340 --> 00:39:40,750 somebody who called in and said that she 823 00:39:45,810 --> 00:39:44,350 had seen this giant bird and you know I 824 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:45,820 wanted it I wanted to know if anybody 825 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:47,430 else had seen it it was in the 826 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:51,040 Mendenhall Valley which is outside of 827 00:39:58,050 --> 00:39:54,010 those you know so you know we're talking 828 00:40:00,590 --> 00:39:58,060 about a populated area and she observed 829 00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:00,600 this thing for you know long enough to 830 00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:04,120 to get a good look at it that she's a 831 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:06,280 longtime Alaskan resident and said you 832 00:40:10,140 --> 00:40:08,260 know this is not a known creature I've 833 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:10,150 seen you know all these other things 834 00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:12,130 that you're you're saying it could 835 00:40:15,870 --> 00:40:13,780 potentially be I've seen these creatures 836 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:15,880 which is not what I saw is just 837 00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:20,140 something you know unknown essentially 838 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:22,990 so it's fascinating when you hear these 839 00:40:26,790 --> 00:40:25,330 stories they're honestly they have a 840 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:26,800 whole different atmosphere of 841 00:40:32,850 --> 00:40:29,110 believability in a way looking in an 842 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:32,860 area like Alaska because you can begin 843 00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:35,010 to understand something like that why 844 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:37,750 they're not seen as often you know 845 00:40:44,010 --> 00:40:41,170 perhaps or you know how they're there 846 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:44,020 possibly living because something that's 847 00:40:48,650 --> 00:40:46,270 winged that that's that large nor 848 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:48,660 Thunderbird or whatever this thing is 849 00:40:54,540 --> 00:40:51,220 probably has a large very large hunting 850 00:40:57,090 --> 00:40:54,550 range and can easily be out over remote 851 00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:57,100 areas of the Alaskan tundra just not be 852 00:41:02,820 --> 00:40:58,720 seen for a long time 853 00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:02,830 until somebody spots it yeah I know I 854 00:41:07,710 --> 00:41:04,960 know ken did the forward in your book 855 00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:07,720 and I know him and Jack's out well I'd 856 00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:10,150 talk to both of them about some of these 857 00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:13,270 large bird sightings up there I can seem 858 00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,990 to think that this may very well be 859 00:41:21,450 --> 00:41:18,400 something I mean something if somebody 860 00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:21,460 actually seen of course but the area is 861 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:23,230 so remote I don't know where he was 862 00:41:29,609 --> 00:41:25,810 exactly a jump Denali around that area 863 00:41:32,070 --> 00:41:29,619 but it seems that these large bird 864 00:41:35,490 --> 00:41:32,080 sightings do pop up every once in a 865 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:35,500 while yeah they did of course you know 866 00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:36,910 it's like a lot of other places there 867 00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:40,960 are many accounts that just don't get 868 00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:43,390 reported right and people don't want to 869 00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:46,480 talk about them you know they don't want 870 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:48,190 the publicity they don't want to you 871 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:51,010 know come out and say oh yes I saw this 872 00:41:56,099 --> 00:41:53,050 thing because you know even even with 873 00:41:58,650 --> 00:41:56,109 the different level of acceptability of 874 00:42:02,400 --> 00:41:58,660 these topics many people are still very 875 00:42:04,710 --> 00:42:02,410 good want to go into too much detail 876 00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:04,720 about what they've experienced yeah you 877 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:07,030 know it's kind of like and you know very 878 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:09,849 well how the Danae and Navajo legends 879 00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:12,190 are they just they don't like to talk 880 00:42:17,550 --> 00:42:14,710 about it and for the most of the older 881 00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:17,560 folks but I guess it's the same way up 882 00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:19,300 there they you know I guess it's 883 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:22,270 ingrained then and not to talk to the 884 00:42:28,349 --> 00:42:26,410 outsiders too much about that and 885 00:42:29,970 --> 00:42:28,359 sometimes it's a matter of you know some 886 00:42:32,849 --> 00:42:29,980 of these topics are considered sacred 887 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:32,859 some of the random sort of taboos some 888 00:42:39,210 --> 00:42:35,609 considered frightening you know and 889 00:42:41,820 --> 00:42:39,220 there's a lot of people that you know 890 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:41,830 they won't go into it in too much detail 891 00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:43,930 because they're afraid of experiencing 892 00:42:53,250 --> 00:42:49,780 it again of having their dialog about it 893 00:42:56,910 --> 00:42:53,260 attracting creatures attention and they 894 00:43:01,859 --> 00:42:56,920 don't want that yeah I know there have 895 00:43:03,570 --> 00:43:01,869 been talk about some type of humanoids 896 00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:03,580 unknown humanoids that would come out of 897 00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:06,190 the woods and steal children I think 898 00:43:11,070 --> 00:43:07,540 most of that was in the Kenai Peninsula 899 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:11,080 area well it does big area but what do 900 00:43:17,310 --> 00:43:12,690 you know about that 901 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:17,320 yeah the disappearances in the last 902 00:43:26,609 --> 00:43:17,950 night 903 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:26,619 it is it's it's kind of a big topic I 904 00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:30,089 mean to a certain degree I understand 905 00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:34,780 and it doesn't surprise me because again 906 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:37,980 because of it a train and you know 907 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:40,770 because so many people I think are just 908 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:44,470 unprepared for the Alaskan wilderness 909 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:48,490 and you know this is an area that I mean 910 00:43:55,260 --> 00:43:51,760 I've been out there and you can you know 911 00:43:57,780 --> 00:43:55,270 you can go just a couple of clicks away 912 00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:57,790 from the road and you if you don't have 913 00:44:01,530 --> 00:43:59,530 a really good sense impression oh you 914 00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:01,540 haven't marked your trail you can easily 915 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:04,839 be lost very quickly and you know turned 916 00:44:08,490 --> 00:44:07,150 around you know especially you know when 917 00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:08,500 there's snow on the ground everything is 918 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:10,150 white you know what what do you have 919 00:44:16,290 --> 00:44:12,210 maybe have your tracks you can follow 920 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:16,300 but now if you don't have that tough 921 00:44:24,809 --> 00:44:21,910 predicament and you know with so much 922 00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:24,819 wilderness it's hard to find a lot of 923 00:44:29,309 --> 00:44:27,160 these people that disappear the other 924 00:44:33,690 --> 00:44:29,319 factor is a lot of people don't realize 925 00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:33,700 this there's a lot of crime in Alaska I 926 00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:36,190 was like a surprise I was very surprised 927 00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:39,849 to learn at one point that I spending 928 00:44:45,290 --> 00:44:43,060 time in Anchorage how bad the kracken 929 00:44:49,859 --> 00:44:45,300 rate is in Anchorage and how many 930 00:44:53,370 --> 00:44:49,869 international gangs operate in the city 931 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:53,380 of Anchorage because it's so easy for 932 00:44:58,650 --> 00:44:56,200 all of these people to get in and out so 933 00:45:02,670 --> 00:44:58,660 you know you've got you've got Russian 934 00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:02,680 gangs Chinese American and European it's 935 00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:10,000 it's it's a incredible mix of you know 936 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:12,700 forces that are operating in that that 937 00:45:18,089 --> 00:45:14,890 small community so you know that's 938 00:45:21,150 --> 00:45:18,099 that's a fact you have to consider and 939 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:21,160 you know all of those things they start 940 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:24,250 to add up - Wow well yeah there's a lot 941 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:25,900 of disappearances but there also a lot 942 00:45:30,690 --> 00:45:28,210 of different explanations now as far as 943 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:30,700 supernatural forces yeah there's always 944 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:31,690 been story 945 00:45:37,579 --> 00:45:34,450 of strange disappearance as you know and 946 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:37,589 sometimes those are associated with 947 00:45:41,819 --> 00:45:39,910 various creatures that you know whether 948 00:45:45,030 --> 00:45:41,829 it's the Christian car the hairy man or 949 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:45,040 whatever that may be live in the dense 950 00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:48,250 forests of Alaska and come in and abduct 951 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:52,569 people for whatever reason but you know 952 00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:55,530 those stories are always a billion rusev 953 00:46:01,920 --> 00:45:59,770 to chase down details on and really 954 00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:01,930 understand you know outside of someone's 955 00:46:06,089 --> 00:46:04,720 coming back and saying I was taken by 956 00:46:08,819 --> 00:46:06,099 one of these creatures on that kind of 957 00:46:12,359 --> 00:46:08,829 way we really we sort of don't know do 958 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:12,369 me now now and you know you've I've 959 00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:15,849 heard so many stories especially around 960 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:18,880 the Nome Alaska area of actual alien 961 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,730 abductions or UFO abductions and people 962 00:46:29,730 --> 00:46:23,920 of course he made a movie about it which 963 00:46:31,319 --> 00:46:29,740 was all speculation but you know I don't 964 00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,329 know if that has to do with it I know 965 00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:33,280 there's a lot of UFO activity art 966 00:46:38,309 --> 00:46:36,250 strange lights seen up there but I 967 00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:38,319 really like I'm like you you know you 968 00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:40,950 can get out there in the wilderness at 969 00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:43,660 night and you're lost and you're not 970 00:46:50,339 --> 00:46:47,710 getting back you know it can't it can be 971 00:46:53,550 --> 00:46:50,349 very easy to get lost and just lose your 972 00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:53,560 sense of direction yeah and it's funny 973 00:46:58,050 --> 00:46:55,990 you know people ask me that that was he 974 00:47:02,910 --> 00:46:58,060 was the fourth time he asked me about 975 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:02,920 that all the time and you know the 976 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:04,210 movement was made for entertainment 977 00:47:09,450 --> 00:47:07,210 obviously I mean it's very unsettling 978 00:47:12,420 --> 00:47:09,460 movie I mean it's very atmospheric and 979 00:47:14,339 --> 00:47:12,430 and it is quite showing but you know 980 00:47:18,809 --> 00:47:14,349 yeah there are a lot of sightings and 981 00:47:21,359 --> 00:47:18,819 encounters up there again you know when 982 00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:21,369 you start considering the environment I 983 00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:24,670 mean it's one thing to encounter a UFO 984 00:47:29,910 --> 00:47:27,550 you know you're out side of your town or 985 00:47:32,099 --> 00:47:29,920 you know you drive them across the 986 00:47:34,290 --> 00:47:32,109 highway somewhere but I mean you you 987 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:34,300 place that in the context of a very 988 00:47:40,980 --> 00:47:37,810 remote area where you know you're 989 00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:40,990 conscious and know that civilization is 990 00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:43,359 on still a lot of miles away for 991 00:47:47,420 --> 00:47:44,260 instance so 992 00:47:49,890 --> 00:47:47,430 you know that the gas station you passed 993 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:49,900 there was long closed and there's 994 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:51,910 nothing else you know it adds a 995 00:47:56,690 --> 00:47:54,730 different element to that encounter and 996 00:48:01,020 --> 00:47:56,700 I I've interviewed people who've had 997 00:48:03,450 --> 00:48:01,030 sightings up there and it is it's a it's 998 00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:03,460 very different in nature just because 999 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:07,089 the place is very different yeah I know 1000 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:09,640 I've never been up there but uh you know 1001 00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:10,930 some of the stuff I've heard over the 1002 00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,990 years is pretty chilling and of course 1003 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,040 there's just not a whole lot of 1004 00:48:21,230 --> 00:48:17,440 explanation for a lot of it what do you 1005 00:48:24,270 --> 00:48:21,240 think it may be the next the next 1006 00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:24,280 cryptid phenomena that rears its ugly 1007 00:48:40,530 --> 00:48:37,319 let me put this way down you've been 1008 00:48:43,530 --> 00:48:40,540 hearing about all these bizarre pale 1009 00:48:47,550 --> 00:48:43,540 humanoid sightings that have been that 1010 00:48:50,370 --> 00:48:47,560 have been grabbing the the Krypton news 1011 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:50,380 over the past several months seems like 1012 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:51,970 these things are everywhere people are 1013 00:48:56,220 --> 00:48:54,400 seeing something and of course there was 1014 00:48:59,670 --> 00:48:56,230 this film that I don't even know it was 1015 00:49:02,520 --> 00:48:59,680 Alaska but I know it was up in that part 1016 00:49:04,260 --> 00:49:02,530 of the country part of the world where 1017 00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:04,270 this thing kind of walked up onto a 1018 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:06,579 moose I don't know if it was digital or 1019 00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:10,450 CGI or whatever but people are reporting 1020 00:49:14,550 --> 00:49:12,550 these things have you been hearing 1021 00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:14,560 anything like that anything similar to 1022 00:49:20,849 --> 00:49:18,940 that up there no I know the accounts 1023 00:49:25,309 --> 00:49:20,859 that you're talking about yeah heard any 1024 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:25,319 of those come out of Alaska recently no 1025 00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:27,970 you know there's there's always a force 1026 00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:33,190 of known animals that are beyond normal 1027 00:49:40,109 --> 00:49:36,880 sized Sasquatch reports certainly 1028 00:49:41,970 --> 00:49:40,119 continue to flow out of their water most 1029 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:41,980 reports due to this there's so much 1030 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:45,250 water in Alaska you know and nuts and 1031 00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,650 that's about a crack just about this on 1032 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:49,839 the ice but I mean if you look at at the 1033 00:49:53,819 --> 00:49:51,310 shape of Alaska and how many of the 1034 00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:53,829 islands you know stretch out into to the 1035 00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:57,040 water and you've got cultures that you 1036 00:50:01,859 --> 00:49:58,529 know built around 1037 00:50:04,859 --> 00:50:01,869 the fishing and in you know very water 1038 00:50:08,749 --> 00:50:04,869 Finnish culture so there's tozzoli fans 1039 00:50:11,579 --> 00:50:08,759 that are cited at a anomalous and 1040 00:50:12,930 --> 00:50:11,589 unexplained so you have that whole 1041 00:50:15,809 --> 00:50:12,940 factor and then of course all the 1042 00:50:19,499 --> 00:50:15,819 freshwater weights and everything to but 1043 00:50:23,130 --> 00:50:19,509 I I don't know it's gonna be interesting 1044 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:23,140 I think to see you know what happens in 1045 00:50:29,099 --> 00:50:25,930 say the next six months to a year simply 1046 00:50:31,049 --> 00:50:29,109 because of course much of the world has 1047 00:50:33,749 --> 00:50:31,059 been living in very closed off 1048 00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:33,759 conditions like Alaskans typically with 1049 00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:38,079 a because all of these quarantines and 1050 00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,849 crass crazy stuff you know there's 1051 00:50:43,739 --> 00:50:41,200 there's a lot of people who live in 1052 00:50:45,390 --> 00:50:43,749 Alaska and they don't know that they're 1053 00:50:48,539 --> 00:50:45,400 not out and about all the time because 1054 00:50:52,650 --> 00:50:48,549 the the climate you know the conditions 1055 00:50:54,749 --> 00:50:52,660 don't allow it so one thing start to 1056 00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:54,759 sort of open back up again it's going to 1057 00:50:59,999 --> 00:50:56,230 be interesting to see what kind of new 1058 00:51:01,739 --> 00:51:00,009 reports we'll get out of there and what 1059 00:51:03,989 --> 00:51:01,749 kind of Krypton reports in general and 1060 00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,999 that's that's kind of commentary on you 1061 00:51:07,259 --> 00:51:04,960 know what you're talking about with 1062 00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:07,269 these sudden sightings a brown pale 1063 00:51:11,579 --> 00:51:09,369 entities which I've noticed that they 1064 00:51:14,009 --> 00:51:11,589 have just started surfacing with the 1065 00:51:17,339 --> 00:51:14,019 quarantine conditions being listed in a 1066 00:51:20,489 --> 00:51:17,349 lot of places so I think we're in some 1067 00:51:22,410 --> 00:51:20,499 for some interesting changes well we're 1068 00:51:23,759 --> 00:51:22,420 getting them here in Pennsylvania I mean 1069 00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:23,769 and that's something I never thought 1070 00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:26,710 we'd be getting here and we might we're 1071 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:29,609 on to active investigations currently 1072 00:51:35,339 --> 00:51:33,249 that a pretty solid report so god knows 1073 00:51:37,349 --> 00:51:35,349 what they are I mean you know hopefully 1074 00:51:38,190 --> 00:51:37,359 if we get a little bit of insight as to 1075 00:51:42,329 --> 00:51:38,200 what it is 1076 00:51:45,539 --> 00:51:42,339 there is one thing one phenomena in in 1077 00:51:48,930 --> 00:51:45,549 Alaska and other parts of the North I 1078 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:48,940 would say are these mammoths people 1079 00:51:53,069 --> 00:51:52,150 singing in real like mammoths what's the 1080 00:51:59,370 --> 00:51:53,079 deal on that 1081 00:52:02,009 --> 00:51:59,380 I love these stories partially just 1082 00:52:04,229 --> 00:52:02,019 because you know it's kind of a legend 1083 00:52:07,259 --> 00:52:04,239 of survival in a sense of the story is 1084 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:07,269 that there are legends of mammoths 1085 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:11,529 having survived in remote parts of 1086 00:52:16,770 --> 00:52:12,130 Alaska 1087 00:52:18,870 --> 00:52:16,780 No that sounds fantastic first started 1088 00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:18,880 hearing it and and you know it sounds 1089 00:52:23,970 --> 00:52:21,250 you know for me it sounds really cool 1090 00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:23,980 you know to them and that when you when 1091 00:52:30,930 --> 00:52:26,200 you really delve into it 1092 00:52:34,290 --> 00:52:30,940 there are sadly not really many modern 1093 00:52:38,550 --> 00:52:34,300 reports just because but there are 1094 00:52:41,130 --> 00:52:38,560 reports that you know from from the 1095 00:52:43,110 --> 00:52:41,140 eighteen others and so and even know a 1096 00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:43,120 couple from the early nineteen hundred's 1097 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:47,230 that talk about woolly mammoth living in 1098 00:52:53,220 --> 00:52:50,170 Alaska they're legends that some of the 1099 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:53,230 native people you know had stories of 1100 00:53:00,660 --> 00:52:57,610 hunting these creatures and they even 1101 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:00,670 produced you know bones and tusks and so 1102 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:04,960 forth and even meat at one point so when 1103 00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:06,880 you when you take it off as a whole and 1104 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:09,280 start delving into what it seems to 1105 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:11,530 indicate is that there's a strong 1106 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:15,370 possibility that totally mammoth survive 1107 00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:19,330 much much longer than modern science 1108 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:23,230 believes that yeah now I should add but 1109 00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:26,380 there's really kind of a whole swath of 1110 00:53:32,910 --> 00:53:30,160 territory that produces these stories 1111 00:53:36,590 --> 00:53:32,920 you know it's remote parts of Alaska and 1112 00:53:39,330 --> 00:53:36,600 and also remote parts of Russia Siberia 1113 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:39,340 has you know produced some of these 1114 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:41,530 stories and occasionally you'll see 1115 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:44,290 purported photographs there was even a 1116 00:53:49,170 --> 00:53:46,330 video a couple of years ago that you 1117 00:53:51,750 --> 00:53:49,180 know reportedly showed a mammoth 1118 00:53:54,090 --> 00:53:51,760 strolling across a part of Siberia or 1119 00:53:56,970 --> 00:53:54,100 something yeah you know a lot of this 1120 00:54:01,680 --> 00:53:56,980 stuff is just unfortunately you know CGI 1121 00:54:03,630 --> 00:54:01,690 of Photoshop and things like that so you 1122 00:54:05,550 --> 00:54:03,640 know it's disappointing when you start 1123 00:54:08,610 --> 00:54:05,560 looking at those aspects but when you do 1124 00:54:10,830 --> 00:54:08,620 dig into the legends and lore of these 1125 00:54:14,460 --> 00:54:10,840 creatures you find that there's it's a 1126 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:14,470 good indication that they survive much 1127 00:54:18,450 --> 00:54:16,690 longer than it's commonly accepted now 1128 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:18,460 for me I think that that's very 1129 00:54:23,820 --> 00:54:21,970 fascinating you know even you another I 1130 00:54:26,799 --> 00:54:23,830 I'd love to think that there's heard on 1131 00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:26,809 roaming around the tundra somewhere but 1132 00:54:31,759 --> 00:54:30,059 you know and and you know I always leave 1133 00:54:34,059 --> 00:54:31,769 the door open because hey anything is 1134 00:54:37,279 --> 00:54:34,069 possible in this crazy world but yeah 1135 00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:37,289 you know the indications are like I said 1136 00:54:42,829 --> 00:54:40,380 that but they did survive for a time and 1137 00:54:44,839 --> 00:54:42,839 last and you know I would love to for 1138 00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,849 somebody to come up with even more solid 1139 00:54:50,299 --> 00:54:46,559 evidence that that brings it even closer 1140 00:54:52,279 --> 00:54:50,309 to home yeah I agree with you I think I 1141 00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:52,289 think there is a good possibility that 1142 00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:55,859 wolven madness actually existed past the 1143 00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:01,680 Ice Age maybe not for many millennia but 1144 00:55:06,979 --> 00:55:03,660 I think it did go longer than what most 1145 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:06,989 scientists believe yeah certainly sound 1146 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:09,359 I think in isolated pockets you know you 1147 00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:14,400 know of course now all the talk is that 1148 00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:15,599 they're going to clone it and bring it 1149 00:55:20,269 --> 00:55:18,089 back to life so yeah maybe maybe they'll 1150 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:20,279 set them loose in Alaska and we'll have 1151 00:55:34,819 --> 00:55:25,650 that anyway yeah well I I hope people 1152 00:55:37,339 --> 00:55:34,829 watched Jurassic Park you know in in a 1153 00:55:41,509 --> 00:55:37,349 way and I understand why for me that 1154 00:55:43,759 --> 00:55:41,519 reports are intriguing because it's kind 1155 00:55:45,469 --> 00:55:43,769 of a story of potential survival isn't 1156 00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:45,479 it I mean I think that's one of the 1157 00:55:51,799 --> 00:55:49,529 reasons that the thylacine captures so 1158 00:55:54,229 --> 00:55:51,809 many people's attention and I genuinely 1159 00:55:56,900 --> 00:55:54,239 believe that they're still living in the 1160 00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:56,910 in the wilds in Australia and I think 1161 00:56:00,049 --> 00:55:58,170 there's good potential of that being 1162 00:56:04,189 --> 00:56:00,059 proven in the nights you know one to 1163 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:04,199 five years but man what a comeback story 1164 00:56:10,759 --> 00:56:05,940 you know something like that that is 1165 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:10,769 presumed extinct and long gone be be 1166 00:56:15,229 --> 00:56:12,690 like a modern sea looking you know which 1167 00:56:17,779 --> 00:56:15,239 was something else that everyone's sworn 1168 00:56:19,789 --> 00:56:17,789 but long gone but now here's this 1169 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:19,799 prehistoric fish that's what it's still 1170 00:56:24,709 --> 00:56:22,890 alive so you know certainly the 1171 00:56:28,370 --> 00:56:24,719 potential for other species like that 1172 00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:28,380 coming back up and different isolated 1173 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:30,799 areas of a planet and it still be just 1174 00:56:39,230 --> 00:56:34,410 yeah I think the I think the tiger may 1175 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,240 very well end up being I mean it's beer 1176 00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,480 certain parts of Alaska you know not 1177 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:44,640 necessarily in Tasmania but I think in 1178 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:46,530 Alaska it sells it may very well be 1179 00:56:52,550 --> 00:56:49,710 there I mean it's so vast I mean and 1180 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:52,560 that there have been some evidence that 1181 00:56:58,850 --> 00:56:55,170 may actually suggest that it is still 1182 00:57:02,540 --> 00:56:58,860 alive yeah and it's gonna be you know 1183 00:57:05,540 --> 00:57:02,550 kind of a real triumph for cryptozoology 1184 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:05,550 pakora you know a lot of us have long 1185 00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:08,310 professed that it still is just out 1186 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:10,910 there and in the wilds in Australia and 1187 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:13,650 you know I think once that's proven it's 1188 00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:15,330 going to be eye-opening for a lot of 1189 00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:19,920 people so you know but back a time I 1190 00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:22,440 mean the potential is there - for 1191 00:57:28,670 --> 00:57:25,980 unknown species I mean it's so much vast 1192 00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:28,680 land and you know the climate of course 1193 00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:30,480 makes it very difficult for extensive 1194 00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:33,090 research so yeah I know I know 1195 00:57:39,010 --> 00:57:37,110 a few researchers up there but you know 1196 00:57:41,570 --> 00:57:39,020 they have to deal with conditions that 1197 00:57:44,090 --> 00:57:41,580 limit their investigations and 1198 00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:44,100 explorations to you know parts of the 1199 00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:48,510 year and areas that are difficult to 1200 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:50,220 access that when they can get in there 1201 00:57:54,830 --> 00:57:52,650 and check those things out they do and 1202 00:57:57,620 --> 00:57:54,840 who knows I mean somebody might stumble 1203 00:57:58,990 --> 00:57:57,630 on something mind-boggling and porkchop 1204 00:58:03,890 --> 00:57:59,000 them one day 1205 00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:03,900 so David uh what's what's going on the 1206 00:58:07,609 --> 00:58:05,369 future what do you have planned I know 1207 00:58:10,370 --> 00:58:07,619 this kovin thing has everybody's 1208 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:10,380 schedule screwed up but I what do you 1209 00:58:17,690 --> 00:58:14,130 plan on getting how having or being done 1210 00:58:20,770 --> 00:58:17,700 within and later on this year yeah so 1211 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,780 it's yeah this craziness with this 1212 00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:23,280 covert stuff I mean it's canceled so 1213 00:58:32,990 --> 00:58:25,470 many events you know for for people like 1214 00:58:36,890 --> 00:58:33,000 me to speak but if if conditions hold 1215 00:58:40,340 --> 00:58:36,900 I'll be speaking at the South monstera 1216 00:58:42,890 --> 00:58:40,350 festival beginning in August in South 1217 00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:42,900 Arkansas and I'll also be at the van 1218 00:58:47,420 --> 00:58:44,910 Meter festival in September and van 1219 00:58:50,570 --> 00:58:47,430 Meter how long in terms of other 1220 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:50,580 projects I ask at yeah I've got a slew 1221 00:58:57,830 --> 00:58:52,290 of books finished and and 1222 00:59:01,340 --> 00:58:57,840 coming out in the next two to three 1223 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:01,350 weeks the next installment in the 1224 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:02,970 haunted series that I've been writing 1225 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:05,130 across Allison will be out that is on 1226 00:59:11,690 --> 00:59:09,210 haunted churches beyond that there will 1227 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:11,700 be the next book in Mystic cryptids 1228 00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:14,130 series and the focus this time is on 1229 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:17,790 Indiana so yeah the cover-up for that 1230 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:20,850 you can see it on my website on your 1231 00:59:27,350 --> 00:59:24,450 life's comm the book is called monsters 1232 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:27,360 at the crossroads and the featured 1233 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:29,490 cryptid on the cover is the Beast of 1234 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:32,400 busco laughter there's a giant turtle 1235 00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:36,690 and that's a whole cool story so I'm 1236 00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:38,460 looking at that word today because I 1237 00:59:45,260 --> 00:59:41,760 like that one more eg Anna has off has a 1238 00:59:48,170 --> 00:59:45,270 ton of stuff it comes out of there it 1239 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:48,180 does it's very rich and in some 1240 00:59:52,820 --> 00:59:50,490 incredible stories I had a good time 1241 00:59:55,220 --> 00:59:52,830 with that one and I spent a lot of time 1242 00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:55,230 in Indiana so it was another one like 1243 00:59:58,700 --> 00:59:56,790 the last it was a matter of you know 1244 01:00:01,010 --> 00:59:58,710 just going down and saying okay you know 1245 01:00:03,730 --> 01:00:01,020 I've got a really focuses and give a 1246 01:00:06,170 --> 01:00:03,740 good overview because needs to do 1247 01:00:09,530 --> 01:00:06,180 several volumes just on the Sasquatch 1248 01:00:11,660 --> 01:00:09,540 sightings alone in this man but some 1249 01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,670 really great monster stories out of 1250 01:00:15,380 --> 01:00:13,440 there and and I'm gonna keep going with 1251 01:00:18,410 --> 01:00:15,390 those you know people keep asking me if 1252 01:00:21,130 --> 01:00:18,420 I'm going to do all 50 states and I just 1253 01:00:23,420 --> 01:00:21,140 say well you know hold on and keep watch 1254 01:00:25,010 --> 01:00:23,430 well David thanks again for coming on 1255 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:25,020 the show you're always welcome here and 1256 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:28,530 I look forward to reading your stuff in 1257 01:00:32,210 --> 01:00:31,170 the future I know words man I appreciate 1258 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:32,220 it you have a good night okay 1259 01:00:39,620 --> 01:00:36,690 you take care thank now if you have an 1260 01:00:41,090 --> 01:00:39,630 unexplained encounter or sighting feel 1261 01:00:43,970 --> 01:00:41,100 free to contact me through the fans of 1262 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:43,980 watches blogs like if you're interested 1263 01:00:47,390 --> 01:00:45,810 in supporting fans of monsters in arcane 1264 01:00:50,090 --> 01:00:47,400 radio you can use the PayPal donation 1265 01:00:55,130 --> 01:00:50,100 buttons on the blog and newsletter 1266 01:00:57,260 --> 01:00:55,140 I appreciate the continued support we do 1267 01:00:59,180 --> 01:00:57,270 have a new youtube channel beyond 1268 01:01:00,580 --> 01:00:59,190 explanation it's a collection of first 1269 01:01:02,810 --> 01:01:00,590 person encounters 1270 01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:02,820 directly from the pages of fans of 1271 01:01:06,140 --> 01:01:05,520 monsters and now you get the opportunity 1272 01:01:08,269 --> 01:01:06,150 to 1273 01:01:10,279 --> 01:01:08,279 listen and watch some of the thousands 1274 01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:10,289 of intriguing eyewitness reports I 1275 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:13,710 received over the years so once again I 1276 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:15,450 want to thank David for joining me this 1277 01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,910 evening and I want to thank you for 1278 01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:19,680 listening to the show good night stay 1279 01:01:31,140 --> 01:01:21,569 healthy and have a safe and enjoyable 1280 01:01:31,150 --> 01:01:43,780 [Music] 1281 01:01:43,790 --> 01:02:08,870 [Applause]